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Jason Dick
My name is Jason Dick, and I'm the Editor-in-Chief of CQ and Roll Call. I'm pleased that you joined us today for Decoding the 2026 Midterms.
My colleague in the newsroom, Peter Cohn, is our Managing Editor for Policy and Legislation at CQ and Roll Call, and a longtime colleague. Pete and I have been doing this for a long time. We covered our first midterms together at National Journal way back in 2004, when we literally slept overnight at the Watergate headquarters for Congress Daily. We were much younger then, but not nearly as wise as we are now. So, Pete, thanks for joining the webinar as we talk about what we can expect in the 120th Congress.
Peter Cohn
Great to be with you, Jason, although I gotta confess, I can't really remember that far back.
Jason Dick
I think we may have expunged some of that from our memories, particularly going 40 hours in a row without any sleep. That was a big election, but as big as 2004 was, it seems minor compared to what we saw last week. We're still getting race calls from Tuesday's election day.
Right as we were about to come in here, the Associated Press called Maine's 2nd Congressional District for Republican Paul LePage, the former Republican governor of Maine. That is only the third Democratic district Republicans have flipped, and it's the only one so far that wasn't a flip because of redistricting. LePage did not defeat an incumbent. Jared Golden retired, or however you want to describe someone in their 40s who's moving on to another profession.
So that's the first Republican flip in an open seat not caused by redistricting, and it shows the extent of the inroads Democrats made. That's going to make this webinar pretty interesting, because we're still seeing who is going to be running for some of the top slots in committees, right?
Peter Cohn
Absolutely. You've all seen the numbers. On the popular vote alone, this is the biggest destruction of one party by the other since Watergate. It's going to be the biggest House majority for either party in decades. The Senate majority went way beyond the wildest dreams of the prediction markets. It's looking like it's going to be 56 seats in the Senate.
The risk for Democrats now is that they overplay their hand, and you're already starting to see some of that play out only about one week out from the election. The incoming crop is starting to flex its muscles. They're starting to try to influence the process, even in the lame duck session.
That is going to have major repercussions when we get to December 11, the government funding deadline. The Iran war is clearly in the crosshairs, pardon the pun, of the Democratic majorities on both sides of the Capitol, with major divisions about how aggressive they can be in trying to cut off the purse strings for Department of Defense operations overseas. Department of War, as some may prefer to say it.
So there will be chairmanship battles that play out, probably in December, and the leadership is not going to be settled. That's another major factor, particularly on the Senate side. Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, who by all accounts had a gangbusters election, is being targeted for defeat by a large portion of his caucus. They're being egged on by the left, which is emboldened by the results of last Tuesday. Chuck Schumer has to walk an incredibly fine line. He's got to make that faction of his caucus happy to beat back a potential challenge.
We don't know if he will be challenged. The prediction markets have Schumer at about an 80 percent chance to hang on. But Chris Van Hollen, senator from Maryland, is making noises about challenging him. Just this morning, Van Hollen and a group of his colleagues came out with a statement saying they will not support a continuing resolution to avoid a government shutdown unless it includes language cutting off money for any combat operations that involve Iran.
That's going to be a major fight coming down the pike, and the fact that Democrats won't have their leadership squared away until probably early December raises the stakes considerably for that December 11 deadline.
Jason Dick
One of the things that strikes me is that we're less than one month away from this shutdown deadline. Democrats don't take their majority until January 3 at noon, as the Constitution stipulates. And yet we're faced with the not completely outside chance that we could be starting a new Congress in the middle of a shutdown if these talks don't go anywhere.
On the other hand, Susan Collins, who lost her race for re-election, is the Appropriations chair in the Senate, and she's releasing appropriations bills. She released the Agriculture bill earlier this week. It looks like later this week we'll get Energy and Water and a couple of others. So on one hand there is an effort to get some kind of agreement. But the underlying politics don't seem to have budged from a White House perspective. The president just announced a few minutes ago that J.D. Vance is being pulled out of any talks with Iran to focus on the fraud campaign.
So the Iran issue is not going away, and it directly impacts the funding deadline on the 11th. I promise we'll get to the 120th Congress and the significant committee leadership changes, but we don't even know how we're going to get out of December yet.
Peter Cohn
That's exactly right. Iran is the major elephant in the room. We just talked about the dynamic in both chambers, where you have this emboldened incoming majority, influenced by members who aren't even here yet but were in town this week for freshman orientation. And then the social media echo chamber is a whole other thing. It's all coming at them right now.
The pressure is on Hakeem Jeffries, who in all likelihood is going to be the speaker. There's not a lot of doubt about Jeffries' leadership prospects. But he is getting absolutely hammered by his left flank over all of these issues, and definitely on the Iran war.
All of our reporters up at the Capitol are asking these questions, and they're not getting straight answers out of people like Schumer and Jeffries right now, because all of the energy is coming from the anti-war faction on the left. Everyone, even on the Republican side, is pretty much saying we need to wind down these operations in Iran, given what happened with inflation and the ongoing risk to the Strait of Hormuz.
But that December 11 deadline is coming fast, and they do not have a way out of it at this moment. Susan Collins just lost, and she's trying to get some things done on her way out the door for her home state. That's very unlikely to succeed, because these are partisan bills that don't have buy-in from the Democratic side.
The Democratic leadership, the ones who want to make the government function, including the leadership on the Appropriations Committee, want a short-term stopgap continuing resolution. The thinking is: we're going to take over on January 3, we're going to have something like 260 seats in the House and 56 seats in the Senate, we can do a lot of things and put a lot of pressure on this administration. So let's take it easy and punt the remaining issues into the early part of next year.
But they're encountering major pushback from their caucus on doing that. So, as you said, we could end up on January 3 in a shutdown at the very moment that should be a triumphant, historic moment for Hakeem Jeffries getting that gavel.
Jason Dick
And appropriations is not the only deadline we've got for this lame duck. Before we get to the 120th, we also have the National Defense Authorization Act. It authorizes spending on Pentagon programs and national security, but it's also typically a Christmas tree for legislation that's ready to go but not quite ready for the floor on its own. Whether it's the highway bill or permitting reform, which the Senate is debating right now, the NDAA tends to attract a lot of riders.
And we don't know about that either. They were on a glide path in informal conference talks, and then this election took over. Some people on the Republican side were not expected to lose. We didn't expect Rob Wittman to lose in Virginia, a very senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, nor Michael Turner, another senior Republican on House Armed Services. When you lose people like that, sometimes even attendance is a problem for the rest of the lame duck.
Peter Cohn
Right. You saw a lot of defense hawks departing. Even before the election we knew Mitch McConnell is going to be departing. We had the untimely passing of Lindsey Graham in the Senate. So the defense talks are sort of trickling out.
At the same time, President Trump continues, including just today on Truth Social, calling for a massive increase in Department of Defense funding by the end of this year, probably through a budget reconciliation bill. There's not a lot of appetite for that on Capitol Hill right now. Conservatives are pushing for it, but in the Senate the path is extremely narrow.
The NDAA doesn't appropriate the funds, but it is a statement of where Congress is on Pentagon funding, and it carries a lot of unrelated issues. You have to set a top line for the Defense Department budget as part of it, so it's tied up in the same issues we're seeing with the government funding fight. Iran, Iran, Iran. They're going to be pushing for the same types of strings on the Pentagon and on the administration's prosecution of the war, and for a lower defense budget target.
So we could be witnessing a situation where the NDAA, for the first time in something like 64 years, does not get done by the end of the year.
Now, the counter to that is the NVIDIA situation. We've just witnessed the downfall of the CEO of NVIDIA, for various reasons we don't need to get into here.
Jason Dick
Violating company policy was the most recent one.
Peter Cohn
That is a big one, yes. NVIDIA was one of the major companies pushing back against export controls for the advanced semiconductors used in the artificial intelligence build-out. There was a package of bills tied up in the NDAA with a lot of support on both sides of the aisle and both sides of the Capitol. Very few opponents. The big tech companies, particularly NVIDIA, expressed opposition.
Now you're starting to see those objections fall away a little bit, and people viewing it as a real political imperative to make sure the most advanced, sensitive chips used in AI are not available to the Chinese. That's the counterweight to the argument that they can't agree on the defense budget or on Iran. Maybe they've got to pass the NDAA just to express concern about the Chinese microchip situation.
On the other hand, they could do it the old-fashioned way and pass those bills separately. But that very rarely happens at the end of the year, when the Senate's process makes it hard to pass any stand-alone bill.